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Fundie Friday part 3

September 10, 2010

Not only does this guy have the worst “evangelism method” of all time, he also has the most ironic “evangelist” name: Ray Comfort. You won’t be very comfortable when Ray comes by to tell you you’re going to hell. What Ray and his good buddy Kirk Cameron do is called “confrontational evangelism”. They ambush random people on the street, quiz them on which of the 10 commandments they’ve broken and then tell them they’re going to hell. It’s the way Jesus taught His disciples to share the gospel right?

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  1. Steve Cauley permalink
    September 10, 2010 10:59 pm

    Ray Comfort is as bad as they get… ignorant, bigoted, and just plain awful. Thanks foe exposing his toxic brand of “Christianity”…

  2. September 11, 2010 11:49 am

    You certainly are a very childish man to be beating up on Ray Comfort.

    As if the man has not received enough flak from literally the entire online Atheist community (and that’s a lot of Atheists) you have decided to beat him up too. As someone who has been helped towards salvation because of a gospel message I heard from Comfort, I am very disappointed that you are in youth ministry (but not at all surprised) and scolding a Christian that is likely two to three times as old as you are. 1 Timothy 5:1

    Because Jesus certainly didn’t just tell people to repent or they will perish, did He?

    Luke 13.

    And Jesus certainly didn’t make the case that we should go search for lost people, did He?

    Luke 15.

    You have none of the grace and none of the wit of other much better Christian satirists.

    Try evangelism instead.

  3. Wes permalink*
    September 11, 2010 1:05 pm

    Logan,

    Thanks for your comments- we are not interested in “yes men” and encourage dialogue and disagreement on all of the issues we blog about.

    Also, thank you for your warm link to us on your site. Your wit and grace are appreciated.

    About your comment on this post, I think you may be victimizing Ray Comfort a bit much. He may not be “attacked” by atheists so much if he stopped trying to debate them (and do so poorly). One shouldn’t pick a fight, and then complain when the other side fires back. To his credit, I haven’t seen him complain about it… it was just that you brought that up.

    Before I address your other points, I’d love to hear your story. You say that he helped draw you toward salvation. Can you explain how? In all sincerity, I’m curious how this drive-by evangelism nurtures discipleship in the Christian life- although that may be of more importance to us as people with Wesleyan backgrounds.

    Thanks for contributing. Seriously.

  4. September 11, 2010 2:59 pm

    I’m glad that the Holy Spirit worked through Ray to bring you to Christ. It is testimony that the Spirit works in mysterious ways and often in spite of our shortcomings. Miracles definitely happen.

    Ray and his buddy Kirk, who I used to be a big fan of, struggle with the same thing that most of the rest of us American Christians do. They think the gospel calls us to make converts. It doesn’t.

    Jesus said “Go and make disciples” not “Go and make converts”. You may not see the difference, but neither do many of us, and therein lies the problem. Converts are quick and easy. All they require is intellectual ascent. Disciples on the other hand require a lifetime of following Jesus.

    My problem with The Way of the Master is the “way” they present is one of legalism and simple agreement to a set of doctrines, neither of which seem to be of much concern to Jesus in the gospels.

    In Jesus’ own words, at the end of all things He won’t be standing in front of us like Ray and Kirk asking what commandments we’ve broken or what doctrine we agree with. He’s going to say I was hungry, did you feed me? I was thirsty, did you give me something to drink? I was naked, did you clothe me? I was a stranger, did you invite me in? I was in prison, did you come and visit me?

    That is ministry, and as far as I can tell Ray and Kirk aren’t too interested in any of those things. So, until those things become their focus, I’ll continue to have a difficult time calling what they do “ministry.”

  5. September 11, 2010 6:14 pm

    I just wanted to stop by to say I appreciate both of you for responding and not deleting my comments. You have both shown your true selves that I did not see at all in the original posts. I’m perfectly fine with sarcasm and tongue-in-cheek humor (I type this with a blues brothers poster and a monty python and the holy grail poster hanging on the wall behind my monitor) but there is a lot of abrasiveness that is neither witty or edifying.

    Of course same could be said about my comments. I often worry the internet has turned us into callous individuals and I fear that blogging/commenting certainly contributes. I could blame it on others, but I am at fault for judging both of you far too quickly.

    Honestly, I do think if you could be more intentional in that, you very well might get people thinking instead of immediately turned off. I frankly am trying to move in a missional direction based on what I’m reading in Scripture. I also come from a street evangelism background and will never throw a biblical street evangelist under the bus based on our differences in methodology.

    Just as a quick aside, the greatest problem is street evangelism today is a lack of church approval/accountability/authority towards the street evangelist. Making him or her a lone ranger Christian and very susceptible to become spiritually legalistic or just plain heretical in doctrines. Moreover, there is no followup with a local church. WOTM has been trying their best to correct this with their Ambassador’s Alliance in which people who want to become evangelists go under the support/affirmation/approval/authentication of their church. At least that is what I remember from what I read on the program, feel free to contact Tony Miano for the rationale on all this.

    I will do my best to respond sooner or later, I’m in the final month of tests for my last two courses of my bachelors in Biblical Studies and teaching christian education classes at my church weekly, so you understand that these must take priority. I simply didn’t want to leave you hanging.

    with all grace and peace,
    Logan

  6. etrine permalink
    September 23, 2010 8:18 pm

    I had this very same experience about 10 years ago, but it was in Santa Monica. Ironically though, Seal Beach is the city I grew up in.
    I encountered Ray doing this same kind of thing and I confronted him about it – and then a crowd began to grow around us and listen to our back and forth.
    He challenged me, on the mircophone, to give a 2 minute gospel message to everyone standing around. I did my best to share a message rooted in the beautiful-full-of-love-radical invitation that Christ offers us, but a couple sentences in I just began to cry. I tried to push through my tears, but I was just so upset after watching Ray’s “presentation” to other passerby’s, that I just ended up saying so more gibberish about love… Other people in the crowd started crying along with me, and a random homeless man came up to me and gave me a hug.
    Then Ray said to me, “Eric, that’s what I’ve been saying the whole time!” And I kid you not, about 30 people in the crowd yelled back at Ray something to the effect of “No you haven’t!?” “Could have fooled us!” “Are you crazy!?”
    Next Ray stepped down off his milk crate, replace quickly by his assistant, and he pulled me to the side to have a little chat – and here’s where it gets more odd. He said he saw that I was filled with Gods Spirit and that he’d like to pray for me. And then, he gave me a signed copy of one of his books. haha. It was kinda bizarre.
    Later I told my parents that I had a run in with “…some random street preacher guy named Ray something and he gave me his book.” They were like, “Ray Comfort! Wow! That’s amazing”
    I had never heard of him before that meeting. My parents knew him as the guy who walked across country with a cross mounted on some roller skates wheels in the 70’s.

    Anyway, that was 10 years ago! And it’s shocking to me that this stuff is still going on. It’s so belittling.
    It seems to me that Jesus didn’t belittle people – rather, he pointed out the littlest guy (in a tree), and said, “Hey, let’s have lunch!”

    Thanks for posting this video – it brings back a lot of memories. That event in my life was definitely a game changer for me – It definitely set the course for me to do more study regarding Jesus’ ministry and the Gospel of the Kingdom, none of which I experience in Ray’s street “evandalism” methods.

    Cheers

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